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You're right, you do borrow against your cash value, not your benefit. However, the cost of borrowing money is 0% after 10 years and it doesn't need to be paid back.
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As you are locked in for at least 10 years in VUL, can I assume you have other vehicles like 401(k) and Roth IRA as other pillars of your retirement/saving plan?
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On tapping the 0% interest liquidity, I guess you still need some more analysis on the real cost of the borrowing. Even the nominal interest is 0% per se, it should still affect your cash value or growth potential in your policy somehow, right? In that sense, your borrowing will still come at a hidden expense to be quantified.
Again, I am not familiar with VUL at my age, but take a look at my writing about 401(k) loans. Even you are paying interest in 401(k) loans to your own 401(k) account, there is still hidden cost as you increase your future tax liability.
http://www.pfblog.com/archives/295_the_real_cost_of_401k_loan.shtml
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Different VULs have different packages of parameters. But in general, it's a life long commitment and you have pay cost of insurance monthly plus many charges in order to keep the policy active. how much a 70, 80 or 90 years old to pay monthly COI? depending on the benefit and age and the table of each company, it'll be thousands. Different policy have different details but it's known to be a very expensive shelter for money to grow with tax benefit.
Mutual funds in VUL do not have explicit loads, but the VUL company usually charges 0-8% money before you invest into them.
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